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| [quote:5d456c3a5b="Andie"]My question back to you Slyn, is.....
Is there any logical evidence that Pacey loved Joey in seasons 5 and 6??? I mean really?????
Or does Love mean sleeping with your TWU WUV's roommate???[/quote:5d456c3a5b]
Andie, I thought Pacey's feelings for Joey were pretty obvious throughout the series.
Season 5 - hiding from Joey when he moved to Boston
Never once acting selfishly or cold when he finds out she is trying to make it work with Dawson.
Almost kills Charlie because he thinks that he is not good enough for her
Is a better friend to her than Dawson in seasons 5 and 6
Season 6 -
so very obvious, yet poorly written. Audrey somehow picks up on Pacey not being over Joey.
Admits to never really loving Audrey completely.
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| I know we've been over all of this before... the curse of there only being 6 seasons to talk about :)
As far as her getting jealous about who dawson was with... yes, she was. The question is, why? She figured it out with gretchen, and ended up telling him to go for it, because that's what she felt... it was losing her place, not being his sidekick, his go-to girl... she was used to it being 'them' even when they weren't together.
With pacey - him seeing audrey... it made it easier for her. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer... |
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| Yeah, I"m sorry..............whether we're talking Joey or Pacey I think it's just too obvious to anyone but a DJer and they don't think with their hearts..........and seldom with their heads. |
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| [quote:3884bcb239="chuck"]Maybe we ought to look at Joey's reaction when she saw them with other women.`I'll have to think about that.
Comments?
Chuck[/quote:3884bcb239]
Joey was always more jealous when she saw Dawson with someone else than Pacey. She handled the whole Audrey thing really well. Except in season 6 in Castaways. I think that episode tried to clear all questions about the underlying angst between them. BUt were there no other signs earlier?
[quote:3884bcb239]Pacey: Do you hear yourself? You can't help it! This is why we don't talk about sex. It's actually the secret to our entire friendship.
Joey: You've lost me in your sea of pronouns.
Pacey: Well, ok. We are friends. Right?
Joey: Yes.
Pacey: So what is the secret to our long-lasting and angst-free friendship? What is the one thing that keeps it going year after year after year after year?
Joey: We suck at meeting new people.
Pacey: Wrong. We do not, under any circumstance, talk about sex. I may be having it, you may be thinking about having it, but we don't discuss it. That way we avoid the awkwardness, and in avoiding the awkwardness, we are able to maintain our friendship. You see, it's a preventative measure. I solved the problem before it even starts.
Joey: But, Pacey...if we're such good friends, why is there any awkwardness in the first place?
Pacey: Because not too long ago, we were more than just good friends, now, weren't we?
Joey: Yeah, but we're not anymore.
Pacey: But that doesn't matter. The damage is already done.
Joey: What, so as far as you're concerned, I slept with you, and then I took myself in and got revirginized?
Pacey: In my mind? Yes.
Joey: Oh, so I never slept with Eddie or Dawson—
Pacey: Oh, I told you, I don't want to hear about this.
Joey: Ok, so basically what you're saying is that the only way you and I can continue being friends is if we lie to each other about our sex lives... if we take that whole giant aspect of our lives and just... pretend like it doesn't exist?
Pacey: Worked for you and Dawson.
Joey: What?! What did you say?
Pacey: I said it—
Joey: I heard what you said. I just can't quite believe my ears.
Pacey: Well, is there anything essentially untrue about that statement?
Joey: N-- [Chuckles] No.
Pacey: No. Then what's the problem?
Joey: Pacey, did it ever occur to you that maybe I don't want to live my life this way... that maybe I have grown up?
Pacey: Have you.
Joey: What is that supposed to mean?
Pacey: It means, simply put, that you don't care who I sleep with. I could've had sex with that woman on the table right next to you, and you wouldn't have even batted an eyelash.
Joey: Pacey...you slept with my roommate for an entire year. I think it's a little late for me to start to get... skittish on the topic of you and other women.
Pacey: Don't make me spell this out. Do you really not understand what I'm talking about?
Joey: No. I don’t. I really don’t. I mean, do you? Because I'm a bit confused here. I mean... are you upset because...I'm upset? Are you upset that...I'm not upset? Are you upset that I'm not upset enough? I me—Pacey, we broke up... moved on. Was I supposed to spend the rest of my life feeling miserable about the way things ended between us?
Pacey: Ok. Well, you know what? Now that you brought it up, yes. A couple of months here, there, really wouldn't have hurt. I mean, I'm not asking for the lifetime you've devoted to feeling bad about Dawson, but just a couple of weeks.
Joey: Unbelievable! Pacey! I can never win, can I? I guess I can’t. It's kind of like taking my head and beating it up against a rock. I mean, who had more sex? Who was with who longer? Isn't there some sort of boy calculus you can use to figure out who won and just leave me out of it?
Pacey: Right, 'cause god forbid I might just be talking about you and me right now.
Joey: There is no "you and me," Pacey. We've moved on, and I'm sorry I didn't dash myself into a thousand pieces when you broke up with me but you know what? Life goes on, no matter how ungratifying that may be for your male ego.
Pacey: This is not about my ego.
Joey: No? Really. Then what is it about? I mean, why would you want to go back there? Why would you want to go back down that long road that only ends with you and I arg—
Pacey: I know where this road ends.
Joey: Then what good can come of it? Tell me. I mean, why do you, all of a sudden, want to revisit... something that is better left...
[Ring]
Joey: Well, are you gonna answer that, or are we gonna finish this?
Pacey: We could live for a thousand years, and we would never finish this.
[HE answers the phone]
Pacey: Hello? Well, yes. Obviously, we're still here. No, no. We don't have anyplace to go, now, do we? [/quote:3884bcb239] |
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| There is also the incident on the couch at Pacey's office.
There is Joey's reaction to the female Journalist after Pacey is named head of the "Stepatech" account; her reaction to the woman he met at the party at the beginning of "Castaways; and to his new female boss at "Civilization."
(You do realize I am only a PJer by default. I don't really identify with either of them. So I may be the nearest thing here to unbiased.)
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